Thanks, kind of an oddball review, but the specs make it look like such a sweet deal for those of us who like 105, I had to put something down in hopes that others might take a closer look. I thought it was funny how many people on that page have called the review "unhelpful."

But yeah, I was bummed there was no geometry listed. I'm trying to figure out who the frame maker is and then extrapolate the geo from a major brand that uses that frame. (After all, how many major frame makers are there, 3 or 4, that service most of the major brands?) Kinda' hard to pin down, though. Reminds me a little of Bianchi or Surly frames. Doesn't look like my Fuji CC, that is certain.