JR59 your comments don't make sense, all thieves who are wanting to get through locks by picking practice on whatever lock they feel they will encounter, if they encounter one they never practiced on they will buy one and practice on it, locksmiths do similar things, they practice on various locks, usually what is commonly found in the area they service. Let's reverse this and say right now can you jump into a jumbo jet and fly it without practice? Even though you may have experience flying a small one engine Cessna your not going to fly that jumbo jet without practice.

And I never said nothing can ever be locked up, what I said is that no lock can't ever be defeated...two totally different things. I use to lock my bike up all the time in Santa Barbara Ca with nothing more then the thickest cable I could find and a Abus Discus lock for years outside of school and work and never had it stolen, and cables are the easiest to get through. But, as I mentioned, when the flat bed truck incident happened I decided to buy a cheap bike that I wouldn't care if it got stolen and took that to school and sometimes work depending on where I was coming from.

If you live in a high crime area then don't you think it's prudent to protect your self the best you can? Maybe your a billionaire and a lousy $4,000 bike is just chump change then that's fine, but for the average person that's not chump change and neither is $1200, and living in a high crime area it would be wiser to take a $100 bike into risky areas to park.

I live in a nice home in a nice neighborhood, I'm not so paranoid that I have a burglar alarm on the premise, I leave my uncles to protect my home when I'm there, so no alarm on my house and no alarm on my cars. Cars are very easy to break into, and people get stereos stolen all the time even with the alarm blaring away, thus I don't put expensive stereos in my cars, I do at my home though and with no alarm. However I do have a small car collection I store at a friends place who has a huge pole barn that's climate controlled and has an 18 car collection (not including mine) in that barn and it has very sophisticated alarm system...but he paid for it not me! But I only have 3 of my cars there, I have two lessor valued ones at the house. But I don't store those 3 cars there because of the alarm, I store then there because of the climate control, the alarm is just icing on the cake.

Did any of that make sense? Or just a bunch of babble? I don't care if you want to take your $3000 bike and lock it up in a high crime area, that's up to you, I'm just giving advice, and advice can be accepted or rejected, I know if you reject my advice it won't bother me a bit because it's not my bike I going to be worrying about.