Originally Posted by
KonAaron Snake
I didn't see your initial post or the replies, so I'm going to react to what you wrote here...
This is amongst the most rude and ridiculous threads I've ever seen here.
Thanks to you. He complained, and you return his complaint with a bigger complaint.
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. What do you hope to accomplish by telling him he's being rude?
I don't see it as rude, just, uh, grumpy. Don't you ever want to blow off steam? Let him.
You asked people for help. They gave it. If you knew what it was worth, you shouldn't have had to ask. What you're doing is asking for advice and then whining that the answer wasn't what you wanted to hear. There are morons out there that will overpay for things - that doesn't mean that is what people would assign as it's fair or standard value. At the end of the day, you asked for and got free advice on the internet. Go pay for an appraisal next time.
PS - Your Schwinn probably was gas pipe crap and I won't roll out of bed to sell a bike for $100. Perhaps you consider that a princely sum - many of us have bikes worth many times that and we really don't care much about Schwinn beaters or your CL $100 score. Pretty much anything can sell for that on CL...but most of us have standards and try to clean the bike up...make it rideable...etc.
How nice for you. Please slap me around if I ever address anyone that way.
Originally Posted by
KonAaron Snake
Randy - I'm sorry, but if someone asks for free advice, it's pretty churlish to come back and say "You're wrong!" He asked for help, people offered help. He should be thanking them and grateful that he got more than he anticipated. A lot of folks...the Wrks, the Miamijims, the Bianchigirls...do a lot of work helping others for NO reward. They don't ask for anything and they do it out of kindness. They also do it very nicely. This ungrateful post is absurd.
FYI - I just read the post (thanks Brock). The dude bought a 64cm...64CM!!!...Schwinn. He's 5'10 and blamed the salesman. I understand that not everyone has the same background in cycling, but are you seriously telling me that someone at 5'10 didn't think "this seems kinda big"?!? No one was rude, grumpy or snobby on that thread either. The first person to be outright rude was me...because his thread warrants it.
As Miss Manners said, rudeness is not a justified response to rudeness. And as one of the experts here, you should know better. His thread doesn't warrant rudeness. There are firm, gentle ways to tell him his response doesn't fit into local protocol. No need to cut anyone down.
You don't need a defense Randy...I'm not attacking you and we're all friends, I just don't think it's reasonable for someone to do what the OP did. If he wants to attack the people here who offer help on a daily basis, I think it's fair to call BS. Most people don't need Italian racing bikes and the hi-ten bikes have their purpose. I have no issue with them and would never insult a newbie for making a mistake. Neither did anyone on the thread about the OP's World Sport. As you suggest, we should offer guidance and help. What I take issue with isn't the bike he sold, it's his attitude.
I made a ton of mistakes on my Raleigh Pro. It was my first vintage frame up build and I goofed some stuff. I also didn't call the people who helped me old grumps and I doubt you would have done that to people who helped you either. I don't spend that much time on the evaluation section, but every time I have I saw helpful people offering their expertise and knowledge to promote the hobby and sport. I sure haven't seen old grumps.
So it's OK to make a mistake in fixing up your bike, but it's not OK to make an etiquette mistake? I don't understand why. We all need instruction with everything, at some point.
And you're the first one to use the word "old."
I think your transgressions are larger than YokeyDokey's.
I see him saying he's glad he didn't take advice he didn't like. He didn't say that no one should have said it, which seems to be the premise of your tirade. He says he made a mistake to ask the advice, which I don't agree with, but that's not blaming the people who offered the advice.