Originally Posted by bigbenaugust

Does Trek still make the 820?

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/mountain/sport/820

Buy it and replace the components you don't like... you'll probably still come out ahead pricewise over a Surly.

It is a shame that Nashbar quit selling the steel MTB frames. I have an NB-SF2 from 2006 and I love it all to pieces (almost literally!).