Originally Posted by
Sayre Kulp
I've talked with a few ride leaders myself. In their experience, you can't please everybody all the time. Someone always has something to gripe about. And if it's not one thing, it's another.
I'd separate "griping" from "complaining." Being annoyed you got rained on, or not liking the lunch stop, for instance, is different from having a ride leader drop people on a no drop ride. The first two are the human condition, for better or worse. The third is a legitimate grievance.
Anyway my point was the peach ride with chefisaac's buddies was led by a bad ride leader, for the reasons I've stated.