no problem - be careful - "n+1" addiction can happen w tools too - but randy has the goods on the job as well

as for tightening issue - i am assuming you are using the lockring ring / tool the right way?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_nDB...eature=related

in this video - @ around 1:10 he shows how to hold the cup in place while tightening the ring so as to hold the cup in place after you have tightened it to where it spins smoothly w no play

btw - its a job best done with the arms off

make sure your fixed cup is tight

and even if you do it right - there are times when there can be issues
in particular some folks have had difficult w fixed cups loosening during use and subsequently used locktite to prevent this from happening)
i also have had this problem and i had to replace the cups

let us know how it goes