I used the sport hill dc running pants for a year they are a bit pricey at 100 dollars. I lost mine in a fire along with all my other paragoni clothing was a huge lost. But I just picked up the Columbia bagaboo pants they are warm and rain proff but I miss my sporthill pants they were super warm and made no nosie while I was on my bike. The bugaboo's noise is really annoying the crap out of me and I just bought them. There goes 80 bucks. Sporthill site is on Google just type it in.