hi. stumbled upon this site trying to ID my two new acquisitions. would appreciate any information you have based on these photos/serials:

first one:
white (more like ivory) paint, red decals
made in italy
columbus formula two frame
purchased in germany
serial: 87XX372 (there's some cabling that's obscuring one or two of the digits in the middle indicated by the "XX")

second one:
"special" on top tube
red paint, gold/blue decals
made in japan
ishiwata frame
serial: BS449470



thanks!