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Old 10-19-11 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bekologist
the reasonable person standard that pervades road positioning laws as well as the entire traffic code, in every state.

are you familiar with the reasonable person standard in law?

really? Cars cant pass bicyclists by partially moving into the opposing lane, The cars were unable to pass me safely?
Not if they can't leave the 3' passing buffer that they're required to do so by law, and on most of the roads that I ride they cannot do that without changing lanes.

Originally Posted by Bekologist
Partial lane passing of bicyclists is commonplace and legal in a growing number of states. in Florida, motorists must just pass with three feet of clearance, not 'change lanes entirely to pass' bicyclists.
Really, then why pray tell are more and more states passing laws requiring at a minimum that motorists allow at least 3' when passing a cyclist? Again on most of the roads that I ride there is NOT enough room within the lane for a motorist to pass a cyclist and still leave 3' between them. Not even in doing a partial lane pass.


Originally Posted by Bekologist
Now, I've taken the lane plenty of times on high speed roads and prevented passes when passes were unsafe and there was a reasonably compelling reason to operate far left in a lane. i find my self frequently, squarely and unwaveringly in front of traffic as i approach bridge decks or other pinch points, on narrow highway roads.
Good, as all cyclists should do when faced with the same situation.

Originally Posted by Bekologist
However, i do not do it for miles on end without consideration of facilitiating a safe pass.
Nor do I, nor do I think most here either. When/if it is safe to pull over to allow the faster traffic to pass I/we pull over. If it is unsafe for us to pull over I/we don't pull over. And again if the closest traffic is several blocks behind how is it "impeding" traffic to take the lane?

Originally Posted by Bekologist
and in that light, I'd really like to see some video of your unwavering use of the center or left tire track of two lane 55mph state highways when there's passing traffic is working out for you. How your personal notions of how to 'share the road' thing works using your purported method.
When and where have I ever said that I regularly ride on such roads? When and where have I ever said to ride in the left tire track? The roads that I regularly ride on have a max posted speed of 45MPH. As I've said, if there is traffic that is backing up behind me and I can safely pull over to allow them to pass me I do so. IF on the other hand there is no safe place for me to pull over and allow the traffic behind me to pass I will not endanger my safety to allow them to pass me. How hard of a concept is that for your to grasp?

Originally Posted by Bekologist
and I'm not talking four lane, 45mph arterials and two people riding block. I'm talking solo rider on a two lane state highway.
Again, please tell me when and where I have said that I regularly ride two-lane 55MPH highways?
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