You probably already know this GFish so I don't mean to presume, but JUST in case it's new info, you can always try to eBay off w/e saddles you don't like. It's such a pain to find a good saddle without access to some kind of demo program. I'm going through this now for myself AND my wife, and luckily she has been able to return all of hers so far that haven't worked out. Some through Amazon and some through the LBS. But I looked into Competitive Cyclist's demo program because it sounded too good to be true...and alas..it was..they cancelled it a while ago. Anyway..misery loves company and it's a pain (literally) to get stuck with a lousy saddle then have to pay AGAIN to try something else. Good luck with the search. Mine continues.