Originally Posted by hagen2456

A while back, we discussed roundabouts. This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkPbT...eature=related is how it's done in some places in the Netherlands. Seems to work fine.

Oh, and like the Swedes, the Dutch like their tunnels, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmXP...eature=related.

There will of course be lots of places in the inner cities where you can not have roundabouts of the size seen in the video, ot unnels, but then you'll have to slow down the car traffic. The point is: For every problem concerning cars-meeting-bicycles, there's a solution that is safe (in appearence as well as reality) and even convenient.