OK,,,, I thought this was how it was..... As my husband says. Never hurts to ask. So I ask for $1000 to go shopping and get yelled at.. and reply. I'm hurt. You said it never hurts to ask LOL... Ok LBS has a Cannondale for $600 Looks like hell but is sound.... I just hate brown.....I shall let you know how the ride next week end goes if I live.