Thank you Hueyhoolihan, this one is a 23" frame which is 58.5 cm frame, I'm 6' tall and it gives me about 1.5" of clearance from the top tube, which is nice. I got it this morning and still did not ride it, but I believe that I will specially the good things I heard about the ishiwata tubing. It's really interesting to know that the Taiwan built frame is riding better than the other ones.