Originally Posted by
hairytoes
Since this is a thread about riding on black ice, can you come up with examples and films of crashes on black ice?
I really don't understand why you keep harping on about this. Nobody here has said that studded tyres aren't worth it on black ice.
I certainly didn't say studded tires aren't worth it on black ice. The problem is cyccommute seems to want to tell people crashing while clipped in, rag dolling around and holding onto the bicycle is safest(post #5). That is the only point worth "harping" on because it's hogwash.