So true about non-leather saddles - no fuss no muss! I do gave a terry butterfly and a cite that I do like (especially the cite). . .Dear J. (my other) swears by Fizik...

I'll just have to wait it out until my order comes to post the pictures (I think that is what you're referring to!). It's gonna be a long five weeks.

Thanks for the thoughts. I'm off traveling for two weeks. BTW, I visited the Wheelhouse in Santa Barbara on Saturday and they had their demo M6L titanium with lots of upgrades in orange there (M6L-X) that they were selling at a significant discount. I didn't want the titanium necessarily.