I checked these out the other day. They are legit. They may not be among those in the $7-10 thousand price range, but they also don't carry that kind of price tag either. The chain tubes don't bother me. In fact, given the fact that my right calf often comes in contact with the drivetrain, I am thankful that they're there. The welds are gorgeous and the componentry holds up nicely. One nice surprise was the attention to detail in the paint. The color, decal application and clear coat surpassed my expectations.