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Old 12-16-11 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ekdog
Spain is not even in the same league as the Netherlands when it comes to cycling. We're improving, though, especially here in Seville, and it is the cycling infrastructure that has brought it about. In only five years Seville moved from 0.4% mode share to 7%, about the same as Portland. We've recently been out counting cyclists and we believe the numbers are now even higher, somewhere between 8% and 10%.

It sounds as though you and I have a lot in common. I lived in Southern California (in San Diego and for a couple of years in Glendale) in the the 70's, too, and commuted by bike. I agree, it's disheartening that more people don't cycle in that part of the world and in this one. We advocates need to keep on cycling, of course, but I'm convinced that pushing for more and better bike lanes, bike sharing programs and improvements to mass transit will get more people out of their cars faster than simply setting an example by cycling ourselves will.

Regarding how difficult it is to convince voters to support building the kind of cycling infrastructure that is needed, I'm not as pessimistic as you are. In Southern California it will probably have to be done little by little, one bike lane at a time at first, but then, when people see how advantageous these lanes are to communities and how inexpensive they are to build (our entire system of physically-separated bike lanes cost less than the one underground line that has been built here and moves many times more people), the idea will catch on. Rising oil prices and the coming oil shocks that many of us believe are inevitable will further motivate people to get behind changing the current car-centric system, which is expensive, wasteful, dangerous, harmful to the environment and unsustainable.

Here's an interesting article about Seville's remarkable transformation: http://www.bikesbelong.org/news/staf...ransformation/
All is possible but you simply added to my point. You cycled with what you had for more than 20 years to get to something like 7 percent. In our area the only way you get a bike lane is if the city fathers see lots of bikes on the road or if the mayor gets knocked down by a car. But I still contend that if we can't get people to walk on the sidewalks it is unlikely they are just waiting for infrastructure to jump out of their cars. And I have been involved for 32 years and we still only have about 1 percent cycling where it doesn't snow and people will spend an hour in spin class three times a week. Maybe I am just tired of waiting. Between my bikes I got in 6400 miles this year. 400 of those were utility and MTB. So it isn't as if I haven't seen what is needed it is just that I have seen where the interest is. I still predict that if ICE finally bites the dust people in the US will climb into something else rather than kick a leg over a bike. Even in San Diego where they have an outstanding mass transit system and still the freeways and streets are packed with cars. But then if you remember every thing from Ocean to North Park is up hill. I would like to see something different but build it and they will come isn't going to happen here. It will have to be when they come they will build it. Once again from my experience.
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