Maybe veering slightly off topic, but with regards to your new swiss bottom bracket decisions, has anyone tried one of these Velo Orange threadless bottom brackets?

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...-brackets.html

May be a nice bb to use in place of the swiss bb and have in the arsenal in case you get a frame with buggered up bb threads etc.

I'm curious how well they work, if anybody has any good or bad experiences with them, please share.