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Old 12-19-11 | 12:29 PM
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prathmann
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Originally Posted by Stealthammer
- Wrong. A 4-600 lb. motorcycle is far far less likely to fold like a stale potato chip than a 25 lb. bicycle, and I would be far safer if I were struck at 10-20mph on the motorcycle than the bicycle.
In either case you're likely to be knocked off the motorcycle/bicycle. And I'd rather fall and have the 25 lb. remains of my bicycle land on top of me than the 500 lb. remains of my motorcycle.
- Being stuck at an intersection on a public road makes it a "public" liability issue. Being hit in a private business drive-thru makes it a "private" liability issue. The busimess has the right to protect themselves, and you have no right to tell them how to run their business.
If hit on a public road it's hardly ever a liability issue for the public (i.e. government entity) except in rare cases where it can be shown that the intersection and/or signage was made in a negligent and hazardous way. Otherwise it's solely a private liability issue for the person who did the hitting. The same is true if it happens on a private road/drive-through - liability would be with the person doing the rear-ending unless there was some unusually hazardous and/or negligent design.
- The company has no legal requirement to serve anyone who chooses to arrive any way they want to make a purchase. In fact, most retail establishments post a sign stating that they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, for any reason.
True (in most, but not all cases), but I don't like being lied to. When I've asked a couple businesses for their rationale for the policy I was told that it was because of their insurance policy requirements. Then asked their insurance carriers and they indicated that they have no such requirement. Someone was lying. The League of American Bicyclists did the same on a larger scale years ago, checking with any major firms that restricted bicycle access to drive-throughs. Again there was a disconnect between what the company management said and the statements of their insurance carriers.
- It's their business, so if you don't like the policies, eat somewhere else. Simple as that.
Already done.
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