You can pretty much have these wheels build up as 24x2 and 28x3 Shimano hubs and shipped out tomorrow for less than 200 dollars. Kinlin XR-300 Rims and yada yada yada. My M1s will be here Tuesday. I have a set of the F1's already. fuzionwheels.com. If your crafty like another user just last week who bought a couple pairs for 100 dollars each. Lol. It's pretty ridiculous really. I paid 130 for my newest set.