You can easily buy a relaxed framed alu bike, with racks, fenders, gates crabon drive, hub lights, and 11 speed alfine for less than the cost of many dutch bikes. Why do the dutch spend $1500-2000 euros for a hunk of steel and antiquated gearing. I just don't get it and am really glad that the whole dutch thing is falling flat in the usa. If we are going to increase mode share we need to innovate. We need crabon fiber cruisers!