sorry - celephaiz: depending on the night and time of year, i've seen any where from 10 to about 35 on thrash.thurs. It goes from love park, up to spring garden, over to the park and river (32nd?), down south of rittenhouseish, and back around to love park. the fast ride goes basically river to river, park, all over the place.

the pretzel ride really varies in attendance but meets at the art museum (ben frank parkway) and then goes over to the big pretzel factory (specific address unknown at the moment).