So I just spent a bit of time on Sram's site looking at the new Red. All the parts I use are the same weight as last year except for the cassette. I already have lighter brakes, and lighter cranks. I'm also working on making a old Force RD down around 100g, or 45g less than Red. I always like when companies let me down. I like improving their old stuff better than buying new stuff anyway. Hopefully current Red prices will go down now.