Originally Posted by JustinHorne

The current Force vs the Current Red comes down to weight and zero loss. Ceramics just ARE a gimmick. Zero loss, from what I've heard, is worth it. It's definitely common to see all Force builds with Red shifters in order to get ZL.

Originally Posted by dleccord

I have the current Force and I believe it comes down to weight and zero loss. Also stay away from ceramic bearings; ceramics just ARE a gimmick. Zero loss, from what I've heard, is really worth it. It's definitely common to see all Force builds with Red shifters in order to get ZL here on the 41 and love it.