Old 02-16-12 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by zazenzach
but this just further convinces me that steel is real and that i'll never go carbon.
Always get a kick out of this comment from guys with carbon forks. FWIW I've broken a bunch of steel frames over the years. And doing some research a few years back steel components were around 75% of the most recalled bike parts.

And aside from the obvious dogma, "steel is real" is bad writing. It indicates that all other material is not real, and therefor imaginary or an hallucination. I've taken enough drugs in my time to know that the welt I got from getting clocked with an aluminum baseball bat in a brawl was not something I conjured up in an altered state. The three breasted stripper was.

Originally Posted by Phil85207
It good to see there are still companies that still stand behind there products.
Especially if those products fail on a regular basis.

Originally Posted by topflightpro
They should cover it. I have two friends who have had this same issue. One has gone through three or four frames in the last wo to three years
Like this.

Originally Posted by mechBgon
From what you described, I'd be pretty confident they'd cover it too. We've had to really lean on them for coverage on chainstay breakage, however.
Governer Petomane said it best: "We have to protect our phony baloney jobs!"

Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
A...brazed frame is basically a monolithic structure. A carbon frame is a bunch of pieces glued together. After this, anytime I see metals bonded to composites in a frame (something stiff -metal- bonded to something soft -carbon composite-), I will be skeptical about its ultimate longevity.
Incorrect. Brazing is done with brass on bike frames. If you've never played with it. brass is considerably softer than steel. The effective result of brazing is quite similar to glue. Welding comes with it's own issues. And your presumption that carbon is softer than steel shows you haven't been paying much attention to bike parts. Or at least never rode an old steel frame.
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