There is always going to be different Budgets. But the Hot or not thread hosts bikes with individual components hat cost in excess of 2 grand sometimes. Almost every full carbon frameset on that thread that stands a chance is probably well over 2k MSRP(anyhow) by themselves. Add some 1500 dollars wheels or better yet Lightweight 1500 DERAILLEURS? 2k is a reasonable TOP END for "Budge Bikes"