Thanks zoltani,

Again, with the Jaand rack, it looks like it mounts on clamps instead of just screwing directly onto the eyelet... from the picture of the mounting instructions it looks like the eyelet maybe doesnt even line up with the mounting slot. This is the same problem I had trying to get the axioms on.

I find it strange that all but the most expensive panniers seem to not be designed to use the eyelets.