Originally Posted by kstephens

I have a pretty decent road bike already for group rides, organized centuries, and for regular solo rides. So my options now are get a dedicated tourer, commuter, grocery getter, and pull the kids trailer bike or upgrade the road bike (but I was really planning on getting another 8,000 - 10,000 more miles out of my current set up). Plus, having a size 13 foot (on a 60 cm. max frame), I am pretty much stuck with considering a dedicated touring frame if I want my heel to clear a rear pannier.