Originally Posted by dynaryder
What amazes me about this whole debate is the 'absoluteness' of it. Both sides say they're right 100% of the time.
Really? Let me quote my first message on the topic:
Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Finally, what has been proven pretty conclusively is that sidepaths and sidewalks are FAR more dangerous than roadways for cycling. But that's in general, not in your particular case.
or perhaps my follow-up to I-Like-To-Bike:
Ladies and gentlemen, the man who can never be satisfied because no study can simultaneously be driven by statistics and speak to the specifics of absolutely every context.
or maybe my next response to him:
The fact is, there have been numerous studies of sidepath and sidewalk cycling (which despite your assertion are engineere and sited in exactly the same fashion) that show them to be substantially more dangerous (not just a little, but a whole damn lot) and not one that shows them to be even as safe as street riding. In general.
By the way, I-Like-To-Bike will not admit to having any position in the debate, he will simply say that he's against anyone who makes any claim of any kind.