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Old 03-07-12 | 06:32 PM
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RobbieTunes
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I honestly think the word "Project" was inserted in that decal set by whomever made those decals, but I'm not sure. The lettering and style is not at all in sync with the Equipe's style, other than the Cinelli logo. From what I can learn, there were either 75 or 150 Equipes made in the silver/grey with the external lugs on the fork, chromed head tube lugs, and the pantos as seen. The Equipe's production was coordinated with Cino Cinelli by Alan Goldsmith of Centurion. I have no idea who made what decision on the details of the frame. It was designed by "Cinelli," and I gather that to mean Cino Cinelli, not the firm that was building the SC and the bars, etc.

Now, as to the framesets that are out there with the SC-style forks, the non-chromed head lugs and pantos turned in different directions, I truly don't know. I've not seen one with OEM Cinelli decals, even the small ones that were allowed on the Equipe. I've seen two with decals that said Cinelli Project Centurion, and I think that may have been a CyclArt product. Mr. Cunningham would be able to say if so or not. If none of those frames left captivity decaled, as the Equipe production run was, that would explain why I've not seen any decals on them. It's just as likely that there were other versions of the Equipe produced, none of which went to Centurion dealers for sale as Equipe's. It's also just as likely they were produced by the same folks, were not allowed to have Cinelli decals, but were sold as Cinelli framesets to interested dealers. I just don't know.

What appears to me is that the entire group, all versions, were as handmade as any frame out there, but in specific sizes, probably because the jigs were set already. The geometry of those frames appears identical to the Equipe frames, and the lugs are very close. You add in the panto'd pieces and perhaps they just kept making frames after the Equipe run was done? I do think they're every bit as "Cinelli" as the long-running SC and the one-run Equipe, which had Cino's design and supervision. I don't know enough about non-SC models to know if there was anything like that. I'm not sure we'll ever know. I sure wouldn't bank on the decals being a clue.

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