hm gee well i knew for sure that readers would think that im the lbs' problem.. no. if i go ask for exactly what i want to see and get corralled to elsewhere.. they go by an out dated business model.

i should apologize to them for giving them an idea that i come for a debate..

i did find a lbs today that understands an informed buyer.
he had giant rapid 1 in xl.. really nice bike.. fit great.. on scale -- 20.5 #

went to fuji store and yet again, they were 'mistaken' about what he had inventory and wanted to take me to bike too small..fine; i have stuff to do and call me if you get absolute 1 in my size.

believe it not no, i dont care atall about tuneups, adjustments, etc.. just process and fulfill the warranty and im good..sounds like the opposite of pita.

trek fx is a great fit but a non-starter..

thnx for the replies.. i know you mean well..