kickstands make you guys cringe i know - there are soft plastic pieces on the kickstand on the two points where they attach to protect the frame - i just see them as so functional

i have been looking for one of these for awhile and figured i woulda ended up w a mtb klein - but this was just my size (61cm) and the price was right ($200 + a letour frame, an old 700 wheelset, and some mtb parts) - i think i made out more than he did - but i think he was happy to see it go to someone who was gonna get some use with it - he certainly knew his bikes and was a nice fella - i dont think he saw as much value in this though as he was taking his road rides the full carbon route