Thanks for the thoughts so far. You are right about the bikes being below $5k - I was thinking of holding some in reserve for upgraded wheels, some new shoes, a new computer, etc. The Madone I configured via ProjectOne is $4600, and the Roubaix is about $3,900. I could certainly negotiate an off the shelf Roubaix down some to put better components in it but the Trek is list price via ProjectOne. Vesteroid - interesting comment. I HAVE been thinking about visiting my local Seven dealer to see about Ti. A Ti Seven with Ultegra is about $5,500. Any other thoughts on Ti frames? The idea of custom is intriguing.