LOL, with everything that's being made in China these days, it's almost laughable that anyone says anything about margins on product and how competitive it is ? Competition really is a matter of being within a competitive retail price for other on-line vendors and the markups are at least double for retail, if not insanely more ? I mean a lot of on-line vendors are somewhere USA local brick & mortar retail outlets anyway and they aren't giving any price breaks that they still aren't making their margins on. Using another's UPS account in this day and age really isn't a big deal. Some vendor's low ball a price and then charge on the back end for S&H, it's done on ebay all the time. And as for UPS, very little difference in the price from vendor to vendor when true S&H costs are charged. It's really weight and distances by zip code. Shipping is a matter of putting it on the next plane or truck that is going there anyway, yeah, like there isn't room on the next delivery out in a 1/2 empty vehicle ?