Oy!! Let's not go round and round the same old mulberry bush guys.

I do have some first hand knowledge of the old Utegra (like about 4000 miles worth, but only second hand info on the Red. I understand that the rap on SRAM Red has been less than stellar shifting (noisey, slow), most notably on the front, and that it is ridiculous light. What drew me to SRAM in the first place is their 'exact actuation' technology on the shifters, .e.g., the cable supposedly moves the same distance with each shift. This appealed to me since I've found the Ultegra to be 'fussy' about cable tension in that if it isn't just right, you get poor shifting on one end of the cassette or the other. I was also encouraged to hear that SRAM had addressed the other issues we've all heard about quite effectively in the 2012 version. The weight thing is not on my radar simply because I can do more to adjust that in the bathroom before a ride

Plus the new graphics, well, the Red just appeals to my sense of aesthetics. BUT... The going market price on 'unobtanuim' is damned near zero in my book.

Which of course leads me back to the Ultegra Di2. I've heard nothing but raves about the electronic shifting, but I confess to a certain tendency to Luddite-ism, and the battery charge business does make me a bit nerveoux.

So I guess the question is will SRAM get their supply logistics straightened out, say, in a week (or less). That's about the limit of my patience at this point. Yeah, I know, arrested development. But here's the thing, if retailers are keeping me a arm's length about ETA's for the Red stuff, it's probably because their suppliers are doing the same thing to them, which doesn't give me warm fuzzies. In any case, if the answer is likely no, screw it, the Ultegra sounds pretty darned sweet too.

Thanks