here,s my lbs story: i went to one of the top line lbs in our town looking for a fairly good p/resistant tyre for my back wheel the very knowledgable guy showed me a specialised turbo s-works with a price label of $130 on it ,i said "very nice but too expensive for me " he says ile let you have it for $80 as it,s the only black one left & most people buy them in pairs so i bought the tyre thinking ide secured a bargain! i was impressed with the tyre as ive never had a puncture yet ( i shouldnt have said that )anyhow last week i noticed my front tyre was looking a bit dodgy ,i went to a differant lbs near were i work looking for a more moderatly priced tyre, mentioning that i liked the s-work but it was a bit too pricey , he asked me wat sort of price i was looking @,i mentioned $70 ,he said the s-works was$69 !! i said HOW MUCH ?? he took a step back & said ile let it go for $65 !!!!! needless to say i now have a matching pair of turbo s-works tyres & guess where i wont be shopping !