Will have to head out there when the weather cools down a bit (maybe take an afternoon off work or something, I work in Chandler so SM is not too far away). I have ridden a lot of junk that more serious mountain bikers would probably not do without suspension so I might have to try this. Not that I don't like full suspension, got to borrow my boss's boss's old Specialized skunk works(?) or something like that It weighed around 20 pds and had full suspension. Man that was a sweet ride. Unfortunately my wife buys the "I ride it to work so it is worth the money" Argument more for road bikes/Recumbents than for a fully suspended mud eating machine.