Originally Posted by staehpj1

I have no experience with higher end folders, but I wouldn't want to tour with my Dahon Helios in anything but the most casual of riding conditions. The long stem is way too flexy and the bars don't go quite low enough or nearly far enough forward to suit me. It might be OK for a casual ride along a flat riverside or towpath, but I find it suitable for casual rides of only a few miles around town.

I have toyed with the idea of modifying it for a better position, but decided not to bother because it would probably be even more noodley.