Thanks, that is my strategy. Back when I was in climbing form, (220-230) I did plenty of climbing with OCRRick. I'd never try to pull away if I felt good. I'd climb more of a consistent pace saving energy for the steep painful sections. I actually beat him on a couple of 5,000 ft training rides through the mountains (maybe he had a couple bad days). But he'd always smoke me by 30 minutes on a timed century with 10,000 ft. But heck, I was happy with that, Rick is a monster rider.