Originally Posted by
John Forester
Hagen asserts that Danish evidence demonstrates that some age groups have a high car-bike collision rate because they don't know how to obey the rules of the road for drivers of vehicles. How do the Danes develop such information, since the predominant cycling mode is not vehicular cycling? Pardon my skepticism about what the Danes say about the ability to perform vehicular cycling.
Really, you do like everything to be completely black/white, right? But I've several times informed you that lots of cycling in Denmark (and to a lesser degree, Holland) takes place where no bike facilites are present. In particular outside of the larger cities. Whether that is in the form of hard-core VC or not is irrelevant to the point(s).
The Danish claims about the inability of children to estimate the speed and distance of vehicles for traffic purposes are not made, according to the abstract, from actual measurement of this ability, but are calculated from some measure of visual acuity. Again, pardon my skepticism about such claims.
As you've now been informed, again, it is not a matter of abstract reasoning. It's based on experience, and backed up by psycological research.