More legs than torso??? short arms??? Interesting fit.

My comment about raising the saddle and moving it back. If you move the saddle back you never (unless the fit is wrong) change the saddle height up, in a matter of fact you have to go down or the reach will change.

This is a comment maybe for a new thread but several times fitters have to deal with the client to be fitted in a super expensive bike that is the wrong size. Since the client (or the lbs that sold them the bike) can't figure it out why nothing feels right after years or months using the bike they decided to go to the fitter. The issue in these cases is that the fitter has to work with the wrong bike instead of telling the guy straight forward that they picked or sold him/her the wrong size to start with. Maybe is cheaper to deal with the problem that just get the client pissed off because they have to spend 5000 bucks in a new bike or frame and walk out the door because the client thinks the store wants to milk them. Remember a guy I met years a go telling me his horror story when he went to be fitted... yes he had the wrong frame size. For the record i'm not a touring style fit lover neither love small or super big fit frames.

It's is a thing of see some fittings, specially with riders that arent that amorphous, frog legged riders, 5 feet torso and t-rex arms riders is understandable have wacky stuff in their bikes, but sure you guys have seen these guys that went to the fitter, have regular normal proportional size body, and are using a 7 feet pole as seatpost, matched with a 5 cm stem that is slammed to the headset... and riding a frame like 2 sizes too small and then you hear... "yeah! the fitter did an awesome job, I feel great!!...this is his number... you have to go and see him...!"

Fitter will do their best to fit the guy in the bike given the frame the rider takes to the session, that doesnt mean the client has the right frame to work with, IMO the fit will work right as long as the fitter has the right stuff to work with, and lets face it... many will fit anybody in anything even if its a 3 y/o kid tricycle and wont mention anything about being wrong with the bikes.