Originally Posted by
fuji86
Well if you're going to hold me to what I posted verbatum, both frames are name brand and that was stated. I see little discerning the quality differences that justify paying $ 280 more. Had I reread my post I would have realized I hit the send button before editing that, sometimes that happens. But I still stand that the Surly is the better value 2 name brand frames, regardless of hand built or otherwise, there are some very good to excellent items being manufactured by machines.
Of course I'm commenting on what you said verbatim. It is - after all - what you said and it makes no sense.
Here, let's have a look at it again:
Originally Posted by
fuji86
I'd go with the Steamroller because it's essentially the same geometry, cost & quality are similar & is name brand.
In case you haven't bothered to look at charts, the geo is quite different.
I'm not knocking a Steamroller because I think they're great frames - but it seemed like you were trying to put apples and coconuts in the same basket.