Sorry guys, like i said. i didn't mean to insult or confuse anything or bear harm in any way. I will say a decal is a decal though. Which is why so many counterfeits exist. Like i said, just a word of caution because i know for a fact that, Libertas, circa 80s and related to the shop i mentioned, were phonies. I know that much for sure. I also know, like i mentioned...that they actually did some really nice work on the frames themselves. I am aware of other great bike brands that originated from Belgium. I suppose The Flying Dutchman, which was a housebrand, could be added to that list as well. They were stated as made in Belgium and the framesets were supposed to be a grade better. I am not going against the grain. Just pointing out the occasional knot in the wood.

The Elvish is totally awesome.