Until the ability to ride a bike on tour across the Pacific Ocean exists, the garbage Patch discussion belongs in P&R. I moved those posts there, or will in a moment. The thread is temporarily closed.....back in a couple of minutes, cleaned up, folks.
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. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant