Originally Posted by
trek330
16MPH on a course like that is quite exceptional for any age and I'm sure you know it.
Maybe if you take into account riders who are going for the equivalent of stroll on the bike, but not for people who are trying to keep up a reasonable pace. I get passed by quite a few people. I tried the Toronto "donut ride" a few years ago. It starts as a social ride and speeds up for the last part once you have reached a particular highway. Despite my best efforts, two minutes after the highway I was a very lonely person! So I don't consider myself to be that fast.