The few threads I found on these were kind of mixed and not very current. They are pretty reasonable in price but that also suggests pretty entry level. They have a raw steel model that looks pretty cool. Anyway, I'm looking for a SS for town riding - grocery shopping, taking kids to the park or for ice cream, quick trips here and there, etc. Obviously entry level would meet that need, but I'd rather pay a bit more if it meant a nicer frame, crank, wheels, etc. or one worthy of upgrading over time. Once I find my SS legs I might even do some longer rides. Thanks.