Originally Posted by
rpenmanparker
What part of I'm not talking about what I paid do you not understand? I'm asking why with such light frames now available don't OEMs make 13 lb bikes for the money they are able to get from folks. I think the folks who pay the big bucks should get a lighter bike. I just used my bike weight and price to show how much room there was for improvement by OEMs not to suggest light bikes should be going for $3,500. Sheesh!
You've been given examples of OEM bikes that are lighter than yours and some that are less than 13 lbs. Do you expect all OEM bikes to be lighter than yours? All you have to do is spec something other than SRAM Red and you're going to be heavier all else being equal. But you might be cheaper. Or more durable. Or have better shifting. Or preferred ergonomics. Weight is not the only quality of a bike that people consider. It's certainly objective and measurable, but it's not the be-all and end-all.
As for folks paying the big bucks and getting lighter bikes, that's generally how it works as you work your way up every OEM's product line. Top line Madone's weigh less than the bottom of the line. The weight savings occurs from higher end components and higher end frame construction (usually higher modulus carbon fiber in a carbon fiber frame).
So what really is your question?