Originally Posted by
LowCel
Actually it is one pound off the wheels equals two pounds off the bike.

Crap! Got it backwards. I haven't come across any good reference for the effect.
Originally Posted by
LowCel
Oh, I'm not saying 158 grams is going to make much difference at all. I'm just playing the "weight weenie" game right now.
You were implying it. The problem with silly weight arguments is that people have no idea of the size of the benefit.
People argue about weight mostly because it's something easy to measure (and brag about).
Originally Posted by
LowCel
You "should" be right, however it is far from it. Hell, a frame weight can vary almost a pound from claimed weight to actual weight.
There's no evidence to suggest that I'm not right. The posted weights are not a contract. Given that there's some normal variation and the bike components might not be the same, if one is interested in the weight of a bike, one would have to measure the actual bike in question. If people take the quoted weight as "gospel", then they are stupid.