Thanks for the comments. As I said earlier, I respect the different positions on this question of how to properly weigh a bike. In fact I agree that the only weight that matters to a rider is the weight of the bike under him/her as it is being ridden. Having said that I am also aware that we like to consider from time to time whether this or that bike that we see in a mag,on the forum, or while we are riding would be a good choice for ourselves. There is no possible way that the mag review, or forum article or rider next to you in the paceline can tell you the weight of the bike AS YOU WOULD RIDE IT. The best way to know this is to know the standard weight of the bike (i.e. the way that I listed the weight of my bike) and add to that the weight of your personal "kit", the stuff that makes the display-room bike into your bike. For me that would be all the bike computer parts, the bottle cages and the pedals. And for me that is 0.75 lb. So when I see a bike review with a weight listed, I just add 0.75 lb to the number and I know immediately what it would weigh if I were riding it. Looking at this from the other side, what is the point of me telling you how much the bike weighs when I ride it? Aren't you really interested in what it would weigh if you were riding it? That is why I stand by the approach of listing the stripped-down weight, not the complete weight. Everybody's complete weight contains different things. It is up to you to add those into the total weight.