Originally Posted by
Spoonrobot
You're using your words wrong.
"Tight geometry" generally refers to seat tube and head tube angles greater than 73 degrees as well as shorter front end and chain stay measurements.
"Chode stems" generally refer to stems too short for effective rider placement. Generally used by riders with a less than ideal amount of knowledge about how a bike is supposed to fit. This creates issues with the handling and rider comfort during different positions. You want a frame with a proper length top-tube so you can use an appropriate length stem (80/90-120mm)
I don't think you know what you're doing with respect to proper fitting.
Ok, so in your culture the word geometry refers only to the frame? Here is how I see it, when you position or adjust any of the contact or pivot points the riding geometry will change. What is proper about the lengths between 90mm and 120mm, or rather what is inappropriate about a 70mm stem?
Just picked up a 90mm Thomson X4 by the way, appreciate the advice Scrod and Yummy.